86: Jony Ive’s Rejected Toilet
Jake and Jonathan - Un pódcast de Jake Knapp & Jonathan Courtney
Strap in for the longest intro ever---you're gonna love it! Jake & Jonathan eventually discuss Jony Ive's departure from Apple, but before that, they talk about being late, picking brains, career ladders, and other non-random stuff! Show notes: https://productbreakfastclub.simplecast.com
