The future of South Africa, with John Steenhuisen (June 2020)
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NB: This podcast is a re-upload from June 2020. John Steenhuisen is the interim leader of South Africa's official opposition party, the Democratic Alliance (DA), and joined me for a conversation about the lockdown, the ANC, secession, and the future of the country. Watch the conversation
