59. How white people can help fight systemic racism

How were 'white people' invented in 1661, and what is 'whiteness'? How can genuine coalitions against racism be built, how can white people avoid being 'white saviours', what's the role of capitalism in all of this, and why is "this shit killing you too"? I interview the incredible Emma Dabiri about her astonishing new book 'What White People Can Do Next' - don't miss this.Help us take on the right-wing media here: https://patreon.com/owenjones84Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-owen-jones-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.