Jack Mallers on Lightning Design and UX

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Interview location: Boston
Interview date: Saturday 9th March, 2019
Company: Zap
Role: Founder

Bitcoin is hard for new people. There are so many things to learn; how to use Bitcoin, personal security, trading, economics and so on. The rabbit hole is deep, and not always welcoming. Now The Lightning Network is out in the wild, a whole new layer of technology to learn.

Currently, the experience of Lightning is different from Bitcoin, addresses look different, the language is different, the experience of sending and receiving Bitcoin is different, and design and UX plays an essential role in helping users.

In this interview, I talk with Jack Mallers, the founder of the Zap Lightning wallet, someone who often talks about the importance of design and UX. We discuss design principles, Lightning ease of use, how to introduce people to Bitcoin and the problem with custodial wallets.

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Timestamps:

00:06:00: Introductions
00:06:39: Jack’s background and introduction to Bitcoin
00:08:39: What is Lightning and what is the goal of the project?
00:11:31: Onboarding new users onto Bitcoin and Lightning
00:14:14: Jack’s vision for the future of Bitcoin
00:17:07: Discussing Jack’s background in UX and design
00:23:58: Delving into UX in the Bitcoin space
00:27:31: Is there a link between design and security?
00:29:42: Discussing Zap and usability of Lightning in the future
00:33:34: Custodial and non-custodial wallets and their role in Lightning
00:37:43: Jack’s perspective on tippin.me and what will happen to alt coins when Lightning is functional
00:41:05: Standardization across differing Lightning implementations
00:42:47: The beginnings of Zap and Jack’s role in it’s development
00:46:49: Jack’s goal for Zap in 10 year’s time
00:50:39: What does Jack think is important for the development of Lightning?
00:52:55: How to get involved with experiencing Lightning
00:55:04: Final comments and how to stay in touch

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Helpful Links:

Connect with Jack:
- On Twitter @jackmallers
- On Medium
- On YouTube
- Zap on Github
- His Website
- With Zap

Mentioned in the interview:
- Jack’s Medium post: Announcing Zap: A Lightning Network Wallet
- CME
- CBOE
- BAKKT
- Book: Steve Krug - Don’t Make me Think
- Basecamp
- Neutrino
- Nodl project

Other relevant WBD podcasts:
- WBD092: Christian Decker - An Introduction to The Lightning Network
- WBD074: Matt Corallo on How Bitcoin Works
- WBD068: Peter Todd on the Essence of Bitcoin
- WBD018: Bitcoin Scaling and Lightning Network with Jameson Lopp
- WBD017: Why Small Blocks are Important for Bitcoin with Samson Mow

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